Do you realize TTIV and AboveTopSecret Sites are Hosted by the Same ISP?

Domains in 67.228.47.103 | Domains in 67.228.0.162
Domain: ttiv.forumotion.com | Domain: abovetopsecret.com
Title: ttiv.forumotion.com | Title: abovetopsecret.com
Estimated Worth $ 36,471.00. | Estimated Worth $ 80,186.00.
Traffic Rank: 935,904 | Traffic Rank: 393,161
IP-Address: 67.228.47.103 | IP-Address: 67.228.0.162

Server Information for ttiv.forumotion.com | Server Information for abovetopsecret.com

Organization: | Organization:
ISP/HOSTED: SoftLayer Technologies | ISP/HOSTED: SoftLayer Technologies
Server Location: United States | Server Location: United States
Latitude: 32.7825 | Latitude: 32.7825
Longitude: -96.8207 | Longitude: -96.8207
Continent Code: NA | Continent Code: NA
Postal Code: 75207 | Postal Code: 75207

Both use the same ISP/Host in Dallas, TX - Different IP's of course but one and same ISP/Host.

http://host-ranks.com/www/ttiv.forumotion.com
http://host-ranks.com/www/abovetopsecret.com

Kind of ironic , isn't it? Especially after all the talk , bans, etc.
I don't agree with the estimations of worth as they are usually inaccurate but ya definitely can't get the isp hosts wrong!

Wanted you guys/gals aware and would like to know how you feel about this?

I think you may be reading that wrong Lou, maybe not because I don't know much about that anyway. I chose forumotion to host the forum because it is FREE., (I'm cheap, I know,) not because their servers are the same as those used by ATS; if that is even the case. Here is an interesting research thread on ATS and its government connections. There are others, but this one is pretty good. http://shtf411.com/connecting-ats-to-the-department-of-defense-working-research-thread-t569.html

Another thing that was funky with those numbers: ATS is only worth 2X as much as TTiV? I wish! Regardless, if I could put $36,000 in my pocket by selling this forum I would do it in a second! Think of the damage I could do if TTiV were properly funded. I'm pretty sure ATS is worth WAY more that $80K too.

Bottom line, ATS and I have completely different approaches to the truth: I encourage its expression, while they do their best to suppress it. Their ownership, the Three Amigos as they are commonly called, are ruthless liars who care not a lick for the truth. All they care about (openly) is what is best for ATS (read: their pocketbooks) and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if, in order to put 30 extra silver coins in their pockets, they are selling out their membership to various alphabet agencies.

I, on the other hand, would die first. I do not even have the ability to put ads on this site, or I would. The revenue from every ad served by Forumotion here goes into their pocket, I don't see a cent and I never will. I guess that is how the site can be "free."

So I'm not making a cent here, and I know you aren't either. This forum is about disseminating the truth, and then discussing it; nothing more. No subject is taboo (as long as it's not a blatantly illegal activity like kitty porn or telling folks how to make things that go boom), there will be ZERO censorship on account of language (PHUCK YEAH!) or that poster's personal opinion.

TTiV is the WILD WEST of personal opinion, and one day I hope that the forum will be as active and exciting as Dodge City under Wyatt Earp. Just for a fun exercise, Google the actual violence of Dodge City back in the 1870's - it was safer than modern day Chicago by a LONG shot. "An armed society is a polite society" someone with a lot of wisdom once said.

All the above said, good looking out Lou. If anyone can explain how TTiV and ATS appear to originate on the same server, please let us know. I give everyone my word on my Sacred Honor that I have no connection with ATS or the US government in any way, shape, or form.

SOT-Lou wrote:

Both use the same ISP/Host in Dallas, TX - Different IP's of course but one and same ISP/Host.

http://host-ranks.com/www/ttiv.forumotion.com
http://host-ranks.com/www/abovetopsecret.com

I just noticed a HUGE discrepancy in their numbers, having visited those links. Since you posted the thread, TTiV has DOUBLED in worth to $79K, while ATS has seen its value cut in half to $29,555! LMAO!!!

Yeah, there's something hinky with those numbers.






I wonder how they figure a site's worth? If someone would give me just HALF of what this forum is worth I'd sell it in a heartbeat and start over fresh somewhere else. I don't think I have to worry about that though. PHEW, what a relief.

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ATS is overflowing with disinfo agents and government apologists right now. Any thread referencing Sandy Hook is immediately shit-canned no matter the content. All I see is censorship over there day and night. Anything I post over there is for experimental reasons. I do believe that the three amigos have been corrupted and I'm sure they have opened their site to whomever wants to keep people like us quiet. There is an awful lot of new3 members who seem to go against the older crowd. Obamas cyberwarriors maybe.

Hi Bob

Hope you know my intentions here . Thought it needed discussed before someone else started accusing . Just in case someone saw this and jumped. Again, different IPS is all that matters - meaning you are not one and same.

Actually , I thought it was kind of funny myself -being hosted by the same ISP.

Didn't mean to rile you up but I am glad to spur folk thinking. I knew you would set things straight... As we aLLL know , you are not one and the same - You guys are as different as night and day - you for TRUTH and them for suppression. I realize beggers can't be choosy and being hosted for free is great! Too bad they are wrong on all that moolah they say the site is worth. BTW I posted old info from proxy instead of that updated you found . I always wonder how they calculate in such error. I found my home worth a half a mil too lmao!
Anyway, figured you would get at least a kick out of that!

We all know alll sites are being monitored ANYway so what does this being hosted on the same ISP really matter? It doesn't.

I just like to know how things work sometime...like detail . Where does this go, etc??... and came across that info.
Dug a bit /found that both forumotion and ats go through Godaddy. which in turn registers through domain by proxy - which is owned by Softlayer Technologies.

It just so happens , it is a coincidence ! Softlayer has ties to and is registered in Pakistan which is strange. Which I do not understand if location is in TX why is it registered or has assigned IP in Pakistan?

Always wondered why my computer was blocking the dinsa ministry - which is why I started looking into this..And that is def UK gov. -and spammers. Hope you guys have your pc protected and keep a watch on who is trying to connect to you.

Recently my pc was infested with some trojans and I was down a few days - clean now! So hope I didn't infect the ttiv server with my posting! Wanted you to be aware but hopefully the server would have picked that up.

I do NOT and I repeat do NOT believe I received the viruses/trojans from here. But I do want you guys to be watchful and keep your pc's updated and protected. Nothing is 100% guaranteed but please do keep up to date protection.

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Domains by proxy - are owned by Softlayer Technologies...
So we can only assume whom the real investors are in the company, right?
Nothing new under the sun here

And this is an old link.
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/09/30/softlayer-raises-20-million-to-fund-growth/
I left out the connection to softlayer but you can connect by searching softlayer tech and domains by proxy. do a who is and see the pakistan connection/afrinic.

Site was down on 1/28 btw. I think this is when they added AppNexus, Inc which is real time ad crap.
I am assuming this as I had not had a prob noticing before.


Link to image: http://www.imagebam.com/image/7f6ff2245599564

ttiv says in india here- not Pak.

Link: http://www.imagebam.com/image/cd5422245599560

Just another FYI .
Yeah, I be watching
Count on it !


If any of you guys use firefox/ghostery. You can see for yourselves the Dinsa being blocked from this site!
Just tellin' it like it is...
Peace , stay safe and pc safety , everyone!

ETA links for images .